Why no trinitarian will be saved and why they are not Christians.

Bro Steve Winter · Member

Why no trinitarian will be saved and why they are not Christians.

Austin · Veteran Member

The people who won't be saved are those who never approached the LORD Jesus from their heart in truth and honesty. Our LORD has mercy for ignorance or else where would we be?

Bro Steve Winter · Member

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained;whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Austin · Veteran Member

Repent? Turn around? So, this scripture with the word repent, is the LORD referring to repent from their disbelief and sinful nature or is he stating repent from everything that you don't understand or are ignorant of because someone has never properly taught you anything correctly???

Bro Steve Winter · Member

Many dear sweet sincere people are very frustrated because all they have ever known is false-christianity. We need to help them by sharing the truth from the Bible rightly divided and unpolluted by ungodly human traditions.

Stupid faith
Sharing from http://biblefolk.com/forum/topic/stupid-faith

Many in this day and hour display tremendous faith. Consider the faith of the atheists who are some of the most zealous in defending their religion of their faith in themselves as gods. Even greater faith is displayed by the islamic terrorist who is willing to strap on a bomb and commit suicide to please their non existant moon god. What is the point you might be asking? Is their faith somehow not real faith? Their faith is very very real and stronger than the faith of many real Acts 2:38 Christians. The problem is that their faith is stupid faith. They believe a lie.

True sincere belief can be very very wrong if it is stupid faith or stupid belief if it is not consistant with the Bible.

I Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

Just as an aside, have you encountered false-christians who want to play "christian" while disregarding Paul as somehow irrelevant?

II Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

Note that the Apostle Peter counts Paul's epistles as scripture and does not speak highly of the ignorant.

Now I said all that to get to this. The Bible has the strongest of warnings against trinity polytheism, triunity etc. or anything even remotely similar.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

There are many other scriptures that prove that Jesus Christ is God and not some member of a Roman god squad.

I Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

The trinitarian rejects the Name of Jesus in water baptism. They don't really believe in the Jesus of the Bible. Their faith is stupid faith and they are headed to an eternity with the atheists and the muslims and everyone else who has faith in stupid garbage. Their sincerity is irrelevant.

I hope this helps...

Bro. Steve Winter
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Austin · Veteran Member

The first thing they don't understand is in Matt when Jesus tells his disciples to go and preach the gospel and baptize in the name of, the father, the son and the holy ghost. In the Latin Vulgate those words, father son and holy ghost do not exist/ They were added by roman catholic monks and others who translated the scriptures into the first English and Latin versions. Also in the gospel of John chapter 6, verses 1 thru 6 was added to support the theology that Jesus was here on the earth for 3 and half years. His ministry was barely a year, and I surprised he lasted that long and they didn't kill him before that year was up.
Those who know the truth and refuse to believe it are guilty but those who not the truth need people like yourself and other to teach them in the scriptures and teach them to study the scriptures. Its almost like modern day Christians still honoring the sabot on Sunday the roman sun god day, and not on the right day which begins in the evening and ends on the evening of the following day.
My friend ignorance is as deep as the sea and wide as the horizon. We need to teach them and they need to obey from the heart that form of doctrine that was once delivered to us by the hands of the apostles and received by them from Jesus Our God and Our LORD .

shatim · Member

There is a thought or doctorine out there " they only going to be judge for only what they know" I believe its called THE LIGHT DOCTORINE only judge by how much light they seen. Scripture they use he who knew not his master will was beaten with a few stripes but he that knew was beaten with many stripes to paraphrase it. I say both servants was punished ! OPINIONS?

Austin · Veteran Member

The scriptures states, He who knows the will of God and does it not shall receive many stripes and he who knows not the will of god shall receive few stripes. This isn't talking about god beating people up its talking about a present tense receiving and not receiving the things of god or the blessing that come in His kingdom as a reward to their obedience to His will.

Jesus will judge all people as to whether they have received Him and his sacrifice in the truth of their heart and by faith or whether they have rejected him. Salvation is by His grace through faith and that not of ourselves. When Jesus went into the holiest of holies he atoned for all sin and then sat down indicating a finished work. Those who do not repent and receive this have no righteousness applied to their account and will perish.

The Holy Ghost is the gift of God to us to enable us to have the power needed to fulfill the will of the LORD in our lives and the lives of others. It gives us the power over sin and death, by working in us and causing us to see the revelation of the living word which causes real faith and not just a simple belief in something.

Bro Steve Winter · Member

Austin are you even a real Acts 2:38 Christian?

Austin · Veteran Member

Since your so godly why don't you ask the LORD Jesus and see what he tells you.

The Bible doesn't stop at acts 2: 38, no more then it does at the Book of Romans. Of course I believe in repentance and baptism in Jesus name to receive the holy Ghost. My sins were under the blood in Heaven long before I ever did any of that. I received forgiveness when I through obedience to the gospel repented and turned toward Jesus, with all my heart. and the righteous of Jesus was applied to my account. There has never been a time in my life that I have ever deserved anything from God in the way of salvation, and neither have you or anyone else. No matter how holy someone lives that is not what God attributes to their salvation account, it's what God blesses their life by.

I once had a very serious problem with a group of holier than thou Pentecostals who thought they were perfect because of their humble efforts. They became so holy that no one could stand to be around them. it appeared that judgment was more manifested in their lives than love. I went to Jesus and laid this burden at His feet and he quickly respond and said, Everyone has sin. From that point forward I knew that it was by His sacrifice and atonement that I was considered by Him to be saved and to be righteous in his sight.

People don't fool me with their holier than thou appearance because I know they have secrets that are hidden, but not from the LORD.

-- Edited by Austin on Saturday 13th of December 2014 02:29:27 PM